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		<title>By: MexicanThypoon</title>
		<link>http://hirejimessian.com/2010/01/07/abstinence/comment-page-1/#comment-47527</link>
		<dc:creator>MexicanThypoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 03:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-47503&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@PenFoe&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;a href=&#039;#comment-47503&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@PenFoe&lt;/a&gt; - Lisa Olson is worse than Marrioti (dont care if I mispelled his name .. fuck that douche) She never votes in anything... ever when she had a vote. She does it for protest against the Hall for the PR they get for the sport. If you dont want to vote than give up the fucking vote you grandstanding bitch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-47503' rel="nofollow">@PenFoe</a> &#8211; <a href='#comment-47503' rel="nofollow">@PenFoe</a> &#8211; Lisa Olson is worse than Marrioti (dont care if I mispelled his name .. fuck that douche) She never votes in anything&#8230; ever when she had a vote. She does it for protest against the Hall for the PR they get for the sport. If you dont want to vote than give up the fucking vote you grandstanding bitch</p>
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		<title>By: psychoch</title>
		<link>http://hirejimessian.com/2010/01/07/abstinence/comment-page-1/#comment-47513</link>
		<dc:creator>psychoch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 23:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-47512&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Sman&lt;/a&gt; - That&#039;s not the point.  If you saw it, you know how awful he looked doing it.  He had no legs left, and got surgery right after the season.  Who knows what would have happened had he been healthy during that series?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-47512' rel="nofollow">@Sman</a> &#8211; That&#8217;s not the point.  If you saw it, you know how awful he looked doing it.  He had no legs left, and got surgery right after the season.  Who knows what would have happened had he been healthy during that series?</p>
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		<title>By: Sman</title>
		<link>http://hirejimessian.com/2010/01/07/abstinence/comment-page-1/#comment-47512</link>
		<dc:creator>Sman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-47509&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@psychoch&lt;/a&gt; - 

But youre talking a measly 22 PA here where he got on 5 times. Show me a player who never had a 5 TOB in 22 PA stretch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-47509' rel="nofollow">@psychoch</a> &#8211; </p>
<p>But youre talking a measly 22 PA here where he got on 5 times. Show me a player who never had a 5 TOB in 22 PA stretch.</p>
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		<title>By: psychoch</title>
		<link>http://hirejimessian.com/2010/01/07/abstinence/comment-page-1/#comment-47509</link>
		<dc:creator>psychoch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 20:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-47508&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Bad Kermit&lt;/a&gt; - Maybe they would have pitched around Grace no matter what, but what was so damned depressing was that Dawson couldn&#039;t do anything to make them pay.  I always hate to see a former stud who can&#039;t live up to his former standard of performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-47508' rel="nofollow">@Bad Kermit</a> &#8211; Maybe they would have pitched around Grace no matter what, but what was so damned depressing was that Dawson couldn&#8217;t do anything to make them pay.  I always hate to see a former stud who can&#8217;t live up to his former standard of performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Bad Kermit</title>
		<link>http://hirejimessian.com/2010/01/07/abstinence/comment-page-1/#comment-47508</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad Kermit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 19:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-47505&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@psychoch&lt;/a&gt; - Sure, Dawson had a bad 1989 playoff, but the Giants were just as likely to be pitching around Grace&#039;s absurd .647/.682/1.118 line with 8 RBIs no matter WHO was behind him.  Grace absolutely murdered them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-47505' rel="nofollow">@psychoch</a> &#8211; Sure, Dawson had a bad 1989 playoff, but the Giants were just as likely to be pitching around Grace&#8217;s absurd .647/.682/1.118 line with 8 RBIs no matter WHO was behind him.  Grace absolutely murdered them.</p>
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		<title>By: psychoch</title>
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		<dc:creator>psychoch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happy Dawson got in.  While there are those who don&#039;t think he deserves it, and they have reasonable arguments, it&#039;s still a voting exercise, andhe legitimately earned his votes.  Statistically, he compares favorably with others who have also been elected to the Hall.  It&#039;s been fun seeing the old pictures of Andre and reliving old memories.  

I remember thinking when he played, back in my impressionable youth, that he had the most impressive physique I had ever seen on a baseball player.  It was the classic v-shape--broad shoulders, narrow waist and hips, and not an ounce of extra body fat.  All lean muscle mass.  Eliminating those who I know or suspect to be artificially enhanced, I still think he had the most ideal baseball body I&#039;ve ever seen, and if you got the chance to stand up close to him, you really appreciated how huge a man he was.

That&#039;s why I recall how sad I was during the &#039;89 playoffs.  Not just because the Cubs absolutely got hammered (Dawson wasn&#039;t the only Cub future Hall of Famer who sucked--Maddux got lit up), but because Dawson, who had been so great for the Cubs when they were a pile of crap two years before was so obviously unable to perform.  Joel above is right, the Giants started pitching around Grace to get to Dawson, which should have been unthinkable, but Dawson was clearly playing on one leg.  Just to make things even sadder, was watching the Cubs tee off on Rick Reuschel in game 2 (it kind of sucked that it had to be him).

All that said, aren&#039;t Halls of Fame kind of dumb, anyway?  Why does it matter whether the likes of Jay Mariotti thinks that a given player deserves enshrinement or not?  My memories of Dawson or Ron Santo are just as fond one way or the other, and that would be true Hall of Fame or no.  I don&#039;t need a bunch of sportswriters to validate that opinion.  And as time goes on, and more players get elected, doesn&#039;t the value of election get watered down anyway?  Dawson&#039;s the 232nd player elected.  At some point, doesn&#039;t the Hall get so crowded that the original purpose of recognizing the truly great get lost in the sheer numbers of players?  What&#039;s your favorite Ted Lyons memory?  Do Joe Cronin&#039;s .301 average, 2285 hits, and 170 homers excite you?

Anyway, I&#039;m glad for one of my favorite players ever, and hope he gives a good speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m happy Dawson got in.  While there are those who don&#8217;t think he deserves it, and they have reasonable arguments, it&#8217;s still a voting exercise, andhe legitimately earned his votes.  Statistically, he compares favorably with others who have also been elected to the Hall.  It&#8217;s been fun seeing the old pictures of Andre and reliving old memories.  </p>
<p>I remember thinking when he played, back in my impressionable youth, that he had the most impressive physique I had ever seen on a baseball player.  It was the classic v-shape&#8211;broad shoulders, narrow waist and hips, and not an ounce of extra body fat.  All lean muscle mass.  Eliminating those who I know or suspect to be artificially enhanced, I still think he had the most ideal baseball body I&#8217;ve ever seen, and if you got the chance to stand up close to him, you really appreciated how huge a man he was.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I recall how sad I was during the &#8217;89 playoffs.  Not just because the Cubs absolutely got hammered (Dawson wasn&#8217;t the only Cub future Hall of Famer who sucked&#8211;Maddux got lit up), but because Dawson, who had been so great for the Cubs when they were a pile of crap two years before was so obviously unable to perform.  Joel above is right, the Giants started pitching around Grace to get to Dawson, which should have been unthinkable, but Dawson was clearly playing on one leg.  Just to make things even sadder, was watching the Cubs tee off on Rick Reuschel in game 2 (it kind of sucked that it had to be him).</p>
<p>All that said, aren&#8217;t Halls of Fame kind of dumb, anyway?  Why does it matter whether the likes of Jay Mariotti thinks that a given player deserves enshrinement or not?  My memories of Dawson or Ron Santo are just as fond one way or the other, and that would be true Hall of Fame or no.  I don&#8217;t need a bunch of sportswriters to validate that opinion.  And as time goes on, and more players get elected, doesn&#8217;t the value of election get watered down anyway?  Dawson&#8217;s the 232nd player elected.  At some point, doesn&#8217;t the Hall get so crowded that the original purpose of recognizing the truly great get lost in the sheer numbers of players?  What&#8217;s your favorite Ted Lyons memory?  Do Joe Cronin&#8217;s .301 average, 2285 hits, and 170 homers excite you?</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m glad for one of my favorite players ever, and hope he gives a good speech.</p>
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		<title>By: PenFoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>PenFoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deadspin does a quick rundown of 3 of the horrible non-voters.

http://deadspin.com/5443162/presenting-the-absolute-worst-hall-of-fame-voter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deadspin does a quick rundown of 3 of the horrible non-voters.</p>
<p><a href="http://deadspin.com/5443162/presenting-the-absolute-worst-hall-of-fame-voter" rel="nofollow">http://deadspin.com/5443162/presenting-the-absolute-worst-hall-of-fame-voter</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bad Kermit</title>
		<link>http://hirejimessian.com/2010/01/07/abstinence/comment-page-1/#comment-47502</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad Kermit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-47494&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@JerBear50&lt;/a&gt; - You take that back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-47494' rel="nofollow">@JerBear50</a> &#8211; You take that back.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-47490&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Originally Posted By blueslacker&lt;/a&gt;I&#039;m pretty sure it was Roger Mason whom Dawson threw out at first on what should have been a single, on that day when the Hawk also went 5-5.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It was Kelly Downs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href='#comment-47490' rel="nofollow">Originally Posted By blueslacker</a>I&#8217;m pretty sure it was Roger Mason whom Dawson threw out at first on what should have been a single, on that day when the Hawk also went 5-5.</p></blockquote>
<p>It was Kelly Downs.</p>
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		<title>By: Sman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 05:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>waaaayy off topic, but...

greatest shirt ever?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://andrewfalconer.com/neifi/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://andrewfalconer.com/neifi/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>waaaayy off topic, but&#8230;</p>
<p>greatest shirt ever?</p>
<p><a href="http://andrewfalconer.com/neifi/" rel="nofollow">http://andrewfalconer.com/neifi/</a></p>
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