I’ve been hesitant to post this, but I think I’d like some opinions on a weird incident in which I was involved last week. Since this is the internet, you guys should be used to having your opinions not matter to anyone, but here it goes, anyhow.
The missus and I headed down to Wrigley Field last Wednesday for what we expected would be a pleasant evening of Cubs baseball. Rather, we expected the weather to be pleasant, and the baseball to be terrible.
We arrived at our seats approximately a half hour prior to the first pitch. Let me correct that. We arrived at one of our seats, and then the seat adjacent to our pair of seats. You see, an older woman was sitting in one of our seats next to whom I later discovered was her brother. Not wanting to cause a scene, the missus and I took a pair of seats about two over from the older pair. Unfortunately for us, the people who had purchased those seats soon arrived at the game, and we were forced to move down. I pointed out to the older couple that they were technically sitting in one of our seats. The older man denied it, but I pointed out that his sister was quite clearly sitting in seat 112 and my ticket quite clearly said 112.
The fact that he was arguing that he was in the right seat turned out to be astonishingly stupid. He was well aware of the fact that the seats he had purchased were immediately to the left and immediately to the right of our seats. He seemed very upset about the fact that I had the nerve to purchase two seats adjacent to one another in February.
For the sake of avoiding (or adding) confusion, here is a pictorial representation of the seating arrangements down the third-base line at Wrigley (just imagine the seats to the right of the missus and I are filled).

Oh, and I forgot to add a key element.

I was okay with sitting in the technically-not-mine seat until I actually sat down and looked up. From where I was seated, to the far right of this arrangement, I could see the batter, but not the pitcher. Since we were at Wrigley, I wanted to be able to see the pitcher when I wasn’t busy making cell phone calls or saying “bro.”
I suggested that the couple switch seats with us, because I could not see the pitcher, and technically both of the seats I had purchased had unobstructed views of the pitcher and the batter. The old man’s response was, “Oh, you don’t want these seats. You can’t see the pitcher, but I can’t see the batter.” I thought this odd, since the missus could see both the batter and the pitcher from her seat, and the perspective couldn’t change THAT much from one seat to the next, but I let it go. For now.
By about the time of the National Anthem, the missus could see that I was getting pretty upset about the seating arrangement, so she suggested saying something to the older guy. Since the folks to the couple’s left had not yet arrived, I suggested that the couple move down a seat so the missus and I could have our seats. The ones I paid for in February. The ones with an unimpeded view of the pitcher and the batter.
The older man grumbled, but agreed to move down to a different seat that wasn’t his. The missus, clever vixen that she is, perked up her ears just in time to catch him mumble under his breath, “Can you see NOW?” Pretending to assume the old man was being considerate instead of just being an asshole, the missus turned to him with a brilliant smile and said, “Why, yes, he can, thank you!”
Here’s the situation now. The missus and I are in our correct seats with a clear view of the action. The older couple is in one of their correct seats to our left, but their other, obstructed seat to our right remains empty. Presumably, the old man can’t see the batter. Because that’s what he told me.
Suddenly, the folks to the left of us arrive, and here’s where it gets chippy.
I didn’t say anything, nor was I asked to move back into the obstructed not-my-seat. Instead, the older lady climbs over the missus and me and takes the obstructed seat to my right. In arguably the most juvenile move pulled by a person over the age of 50, the brother and sister begin to sarcastically wave to one another over the missus and me. They also start saying things like, “How is it over there?”
I ignore it at first, but then I overhear the old man saying to the woman behind him, “It’s hard to get seats next to one another at Wrigley.” Some might say IMPOSSIBLE! I thought, as I sat adjacent to my wife in our seats at Wrigley. “I’ve done this before, and it’s usually never been a problem, but, you know, some people.”
At that point, I turned to him and said, “All right, man. You don’t have to be a prick about it. I want an unobstructed view of the game, and I PAID for an unobstructed view of the game. It’s not my fault that you couldn’t get two seats together.” I then kindly pointed out that instead of acting like an “asshole,” he could have had his sister plop down in the seat directly in front of him. Unobstructed views for all, and they can still carry on a conversation.
He decided he’d rather argue with me, though. Finally, I said, “Can you see the pitcher from that seat?” “Yes,” he replied. “Can you see the batter?” I asked. “Yes,” he said. Infuriated, I pointed out that he had lied to us about not being able to see the batter before, and he and I switched seats so he could sit next to his sister.
As the game progressed, I got up to meet flannj, who had gotten my attention by yelling “KERM!” and thrusting a Chicago Now sign in my direction. When I got up, the old man apparently noticed the ESSIAN #41 jersey I was wearing (thanks, Dolan) and asked the missus about it while I was gone. She told him about the site, and he immediately changed his tune. The missus suspects that he misunderstood and thought I have some sort of actual media credentials, or something.
For whatever reason, by the time I got back, he was completely apologetic and explained that his sister was in from out of town and they just wanted to see the game, etc. The apology initially made me hesitant to post the whole ordeal, but then I got to thinking. This dude caused the whole problem by (1) lying about the sight lines from his seat, (2) talking shit about me in a too-loud voice to the woman behind us, and (3) NOT SACKING UP AND PAYING STUBHUB FOR TWO SEATS TOGETHER IN THE FIRST PLACE. If your sister only comes in for one game a year, just pay the extra $20 a seat, you cheap bastard.
Am I way out of line here? The guy was seriously trying to make ME feel like the asshole for wanting to sit in my seats. The ONLY issue I had with moving was that it meant the difference between seeing the pitcher or not seeing the pitcher. When do you draw the line between courtesy and wanting to see the game?

Obviously, you know my feelings on this already, but let me spell it out for the boys and girls in the audience: In a situation where a guy wants you to be the a-hole, you go ahead and break his nose. Then you get to be the a-hole, and he gets a visit to the hospital. Win-win.
And while he’s cowering away, his eyes awash if tears and blood, you get to yell, “Can you see the pitcher now!?”
I’m with you. You buy the ticket, you sit in those seats. End of discussion.
I wouldn’t know. This sort of thing never happens in St. Louis.
Of course not – everyone’s too busy being smug and self-satisfied. Funny, when you consider how much of a HOLE St. Louis is. BK – Frankly, I’m tired of old men at sporting events who feel like they can sit, say, or do whatever they want solely because they’re closer to death than the rest of us. It’s gotten A LOT worse in the last 10 years or so.@Joe Buck -
Just Fart a lot. Aim the cheek their way too. That gets old men’s attention. And they can’t call security over that.
And ask if he can see the pitcher through the gray fog you just left.
You said it yourself:
I want an unobstructed view of the game, and I PAID for an unobstructed view of the game. It’s not my fault that you couldn’t get two seats together
End of story. If he wants to get surly, he can, and then deal with the consequences.
In fact, Kerm, you are good person for doing this, instead of just being passive and let the assholes run rampant, as some people would.
Let the old guy deal with an older guy, just call an usher over and tell him the guy’s in your seat. You paid for the seat and in doing so, you paid for someone else to deal with that sort of stuff.
Also, Marty Brenneman would like you to know that would not happen in Cincinatti either (because every couple has a section to themselves this time of year).
I wonder the next ball park will have huge poles that block the view too. Oh wait, we are not getting a new ballpark until someone is killed by this one because cubs fans are deuche-nozels?
Oh well at least we are back in this thing after last night.
Jake
My dad had one of those seats once. (In fact, it was on the third base side – maybe it was the very same seat.) He didn’t try to pull that shit with me. He sat behind the post like a man while I had a clear view of the game.
When we were kids, me and my brother used to go sit in seats that weren’t ours. This story isn’t going anywhere, just wanted to point out I was a kid when I sat in seats that weren’t mine.
Unfortunately for me, I am a Cub fan that lives near St. Louis, so i go to quite a few Cardinal games, they do not have obstructions, true, however they have nazi attendents that wont let you cheer for the other team. You cant boo their precious cardinals or you get kicked out. Ive seen it happen twice just this year, with the cubs and the dodgers, so at least they dont discrimitate.
Unless the venue is general admission, you have every right to sit in the seats you purchased. End of story.
I’m assuming that by about the 4th inning you were asking to sit in one of the obstructed seats, though.
Way to be an asshole Kerm.
This was a pretty good story, and the only thing I think you did wrong was leave out the part about how You, J-Kerm, and the old lady went back to your place for a little “Post Game Show”. But, other than that I think you composed yourself a lot better than I would have.
See this is the beauty of baseball. Do you STATFAGS have lots of spreadsheets to capture this? Doubt it. Ever see two laptops arguing over obstructed seats? DIDN’T THINK SO
so what you’re saying is that you could tell a conflict was coming, that in fact it was gonna happen?
i’ll see myself out
me TAKE seat!
I once got stuck sitting behind a pole for a Friday afternoon Cubs/Tigers tilt in 2000. I think Scott Downs threw a shutout. I can’t say for sure, though, because the pole had perfectly blocked out the pitchers mound from my perspective. I just imagined that the pole was a pitching machine that fired the balls to home. Great fun.
And the worst part of this incident was the whole obnoxious, sarcastic “how’re you enjoying the game?” back-and-forth that they were tossing over you. That shit’s bordering on the hostile. I’m glad you decided to share this story, Kerm.
That was completely obnoxious.
Outing you with a ChicagoNow sign?
Bad Kermit,
I have just become one of your “Raving Fans”, to steal a phrase from some self-help guru’s book. (Ken Something-or-Other, I think).
This is a priceless blog. Ignore Irish Yeti – that guy’s probably either a) the cheap bastard you talked to in the first place, or b) related to the cheap bastard in question (CBIQ).
As a born Cincinnati Reds fan, my sympathies lie with that floundering franchise at heart. But I also root for the Cubs, even if you SOB’s DID give us Dusty Baker (thanks for that, by the way – it’s like saying “thank you” to the girl who gave you the Herp… “Dusty Baker — the Gift That Keeps On Giving”)
Personally, I would have had a very direct resolution to this matter. It would have involved shoving my ticket stubs up CBIQ’s ass, along with whatever power tool was closest. They’re YOUR SEATS! Get the F*ck out!
End of story.
I would have LOVED to deal with the “How’s it over there?” comments with some general, loud discussions about Sister Woman’s lack of feminine hygiene, my unfortunate downwind status, and a fevered thanks to the gods for not jumping on THAT particular hand grenade. In a side note, I actually think you handled this one with a lot more tact and class and creativity than I personally would muster. And your missus should be canonized for sainthood.
Anyhoo, you got a loyal reader now. Keep writing, and kicking the arseheads out of your seats @ Wrigley.
Keaton
Hey Kerm I just saw the newest countdown… Don’t you know I am the only person that is allowed to make Bataan death march ellusions?
http://ballhype.com/story/brennaman_apologizes_for_bataan_remark_mlb_yahoo/
Clearly the guy was being a huge douche and you did exactly what you should’ve done. From the douches with the “It’s Gonna Happen” signs to the dipshits who were perfectly happy to see the Cubs trot out slugs like Hector Villenueva and Luis Salazar rather than sign actual good players throughout basically the entire 1990s, 90% of the people at Wrigley are assholes.
@Ray – They really throw fans out of the Urinal Cake II just for cheering the visiting team? Can they arbitrarily suspend the First Amendment like that?
BK – Well done.
Whoa! Kerm – solid tale, bro! I can’t believe th- oops, sorry I gotta take this one.
@GoCubsGo – So THAT’s what I sound like rithout my accent. Oooo robster craws!
I can’t believe you didn’t take your seats right away. Too bad you didn’t invite me on a date. We’d have fucked those old fucks up!!!!
Seriously, though, sit in your own seat. Don’t be nice.
@GoCubsGo – of course 90% of the people at Wrigley are assholes. 90% of all people are assholes, after all.
Yeah. As soon as somebody questions the seats, I think you should call an usher. Don’t even get involved. Let the usher handle it.
If you wanted to be nice, you could move the old man and old lady into the bad seats. But it’s not worth it.
/In actual practice, though, I would have been a real dick. I would have probably told the guy to fuck off and really get in his face if he try to pull some that shit. I would made it SO uncomfortable for HIM that he would have had to move. He wouldn’t be able to handle the pressure. But like I said, I’m a real dick.
This illustrates a growing problem…it’s getting increasingly annoying to go to a Cubs game these days. Mainly because the baseball is terrible. But also because every game is like a douchebag festival…especially if Kaplan is covering the game.
You have no reason to feel bad, Kerm. You actually would have been within your rights to call this guy out as a prick long before you actually did.
christ, is this bleed cubbie blue?
No, Stepson. The old man didn’t take Kerm’s balogna sandwich, nor did he drink beer, nor did he heckle the opposing team. This would be too hot for BCB.
Jesus I fucking hate us. And I am one of us.
That’s so cool you wear a Jim Essian jersey to games, *coughs* gay. *coughs*
The guy must have been black or something, right? Because racism is the only reason I can think of for you to act like such a shitheel. Insisting on sitting in the assigned seats that you’d paid for? The audacity.
So, your view was obstructed by a Pole? Tell that bohunk to get the hell outta your way.
(I’ll also see myself out…)
My ears are burning.
I don’t get it. I’ve never, ever been in a fight at Wrigley.
Especially not in the last 10-15 years.
Kerm,
I wish I had known this was going on at the time.
I would have gladly taken the open seat in front of him and spent the next two innings turned around, standing up, and blabbering to you and J. Blocking his view until he was forced to find an usher.
I’m pretty good at being an asshole old man as well.
You kept that sign, didn’t you?
@flannj – I kept it at least as long as the ride home. I might have thrown it into my toilet at some point thereafter. Details are fuzzy.
Oh, and this guy was definitely WAY older than you in spirit.
“Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech…”
First Amendment only applies to governmental entities. The Cardinals aren’t a government.