Apparently, Lilly was pissed about Davidson’s strike zone, and he and Rothschild began jawing at Davidson from the dugout. Davidson ejected Lilly from the bench, at which point, Ted decided to come out and get his money’s worth. Lilly asked Davidson to “concentrate,” Davidson told Lilly he could do whatever he wanted, and then Lilly had to be restrained.

We don’t want Cotts back here in Des Moines. Just release him and put the whole organization out of its misery.

I have really been struggling with the roster makeup since Spring Training. I am not one of those “if we had DeRosa everything would be okay” guys, but I just don’t understand how Hendry and Lou felt some of the moves they were making in the offseason/Spring Training were going to help this team.

The other struggle has been the utter lack of common sense that has been on display of late. Similar to the examples Kermit mentioned from last night’s game, there have been examples each game of mental breakdowns/lack of execution.

I’m not sure how you get this thing turned around.

I was at the game last night as well and I think this post perfectly summarizes the feelings of that game. I said the same thing when Cotts came in, and damn if he didn’t disappoint. I also predicted Theriot would run himself out when he hit each of the doubles and was only right once… That game was a disaster and indicative of what’s to come if something doesn’t change.

This whole we gotta get more left-handed thing this offseason was a big imaginary crock of shit! I wasn’t a DeRosa lover but he sure looks good now. Fontenot can handle 3B for a day or 2 but in a long stretch he’s not the answer & what was Hendry thinking when he signed Miles? The Cardinals wouldn’t give him $1Mil for a year. This is a steal & he’s a switch hitter? If you can’t hit .280 left-handed who cares if you’re left-handed? Neal Cotts is a lefty who is bad he makes me pray for Will Ohmanoman. Seriously Wells in the rotation or BP is better than Cotts on the roster.

Now that Lee’s starting to hit a little I think we should trade him to the Padres along with Harden & maybe a minor leaguer ( we already gave them Chad Gaudin ) for Jake Peavy & Adrian Gonzalez. I know Lee has the no-trade clause but he could go for a trade to a California team. The Cubs don’t need one of their current top 4 starters to be the new 5th starter so one needs to go & the Padres probably would like Harden’s contract the best with an $8 Mil option for next year otherwise I’d prefer to move Dempster but he’s too rich for SD. Peavy proved Kevin Towers has limited ( only the Cubs) options to trade a man he must trade to cut payroll so why should Hendry give up quality minor leaguers when they have to dump him anyway & he can only go to us? Nobody wants to pay the $22 million for last year of his contract especially in this economy so this is Hendry’s advantage. The best Hendry trades are when he squeezes small market clubs. So in order to let Towers dump Peavy, Hendry should & realistically squeeze Adrian Gonzalez too. Towers will not be able to afford Gonzalez in a few years anyway & if Hendry feels nice he could throw in a couple mil for the remaining $30 mil on Lee’s contract. It’s a win-win for both clubs.

@Frasier Crane – If the Padres did that, it would be the dumbest trade in history.

What makes you think Lee would waive his no-trade to go to San Diego? Why the fuck would the Padres agree to give the Cubs Gonzalez? What kind of magic fucking leverage does Jim Hendry hold over Kevin Towers to get that done, and why didn’t he exercise it back in Spring Training. And what does the $22 million have to do with this? The Cubs can’t pay it, and they shouldn’t anyway, only a team that Peavy’s on the fence about would agree to exercise that option to entice him to waive the no-trade.

Christ.

What’s that Hendry? An aging A disintegrating first baseman with a highly unfavorable contract and the dude Samuel L. Jackson’s character in Unbreakable was based on for Peavy AND Gonzalez? That sounds like a great deal, Jim. Sure, you just sit right there while I get the paperwork rolling. You hear that Jim? You sit right there. Don’t move a muscle, Jim. Don’t even breathe. That’s how fast I am going to jump on your offer. Are you sitting perfectly still? Good. Just wait right there Jim.

Frasier,

You are being an oversensitive douche.

Now, tell me to go fuck myself if you must, and then go away.

@Feesh – Not their best pitcher but their most expensive player who is taking up over 20% of their payroll & who they’ve been ordered to dump. Yes, Hendry should be rewarded any player he wants for that considering Towers has no other options. Towers is no position to demand anybody. The Cubs would be doing them a favor. It’s called a bailout.

@TDubbs – TDubbs your production on this site is about as worthy as Aarron Miles’ roster spot. That’s the DL. You have only produced 1 good story & about 3 decents comments over the last 2 years. The fact that U think I’m mentally tells me I’m on to something.

@Bad Kermit – exactly. Hendry should take their 2 most expensive players. All I’m saying is why should Hendry stop with Peavy. Towers knows Gonzales will be in another uniform by 2012 & the Padres have no chance of winning before 2012 without Peavy.

It’s simple Hendry agrees to take them both or none

Originally Posted By Frasier Crane@Bad Kermit – exactly. Hendry should take their 2 most expensive players. All I’m saying is why should Hendry stop with Peavy. Towers knows Gonzales will be in another uniform by 2012 & the Padres have no chance of winning before 2012 without Peavy.

It’s simple Hendry agrees to take them both or none

Do you honestly think that there is any way possible that Adrian Gonzalez (Adrian. Not Luis, Alex, or Elian) will be traded? You know he’s fucking awesome, right? And if for some unforeseen reason he gets traded next year or in two years, it’ll be for prospects. Good ones, though, not the ones that the Cubs have. I have to assume that every comment you’ve made here was supposed to be typed in green font. Please tell us all that this is the case.

Originally Posted By Frasier Crane Peavy’s contract is such a burden to the Padres that Towers must consider putting Adrian Gonzalez in a deal

Let’s go over this again. You think that the Padres are so desperate to lower payroll that they have to dump Gonzalez too? But in your trade scenario, the Padres take back Derrek Lee who MAKES MORE MONEY THAN GONZALEZ.

As for 2012, why the fuck would Towers care about signing a guy who’s contract is up in 2012? I’d say the odds are a lot better that Towers is gone from the Padres by then than Gonzalez.

Let�s go over this again. You think that the Padres are so desperate to lower payroll that they have to dump Gonzalez too? a href=’#comment-43992′>@CT – YOUR HALF RIGHT. i’M SAYING THE COST OF RELIEVING THEM OF PEAVY’S CONTRACT SHOULD AWARD THE CUBS GONZALEZ. But in your trade scenario, the Padres take back Derrek Lee who MAKES MORE MONEY THAN GONZALEZ<……..NO. I’ve always been aware it’d be stupid for Towers to absorb Lee’s contract. SINCE GONZALEZ’S CONTRACT IS PEANUTS HENDRY AGREES TO PAY THE DIFFERNCE. IN OTHER WORDS, EACH CLUB PAYS THE OLD PRICE FOR THEIR NEW 1B.

HENDRY TRADES HARDEN, LEE & ABOUT $24 MIL. FOR PEAVY & GONZALES. THE CUBS FINALLY GET A 1B THAT DESERVES $12-15MIL BUT WILL ONLY RECIEVE $3MIL BECAUSE HIS NAME IS GONZALES NOT LEE.

If Lee rejects the trade, trade Micah Hoffpauir ( keeping the $24 mil since the Padres wouldn’t have to pay Lee) & D. Lee becomes the new Micah Hoffpauir off the bench. The Cubs absorb an extra $3mil (GONZALES CONTRACT) to upgrade 1b only if Lee rejects the trade. LEE $13-15Mil+GONZALES$3Mil= $15-18mIL 1B. If Lee knew Gonzales would be taking the majority of his playing time I’m sure he’d waive his no-trade clause to be with a California team.

Who do the Cubs need more Gonzales or Peavy? Peavy would be nice but we don’t really need Peavy with our current starters in the rotation as much as Gonzales.

Harden could yield SD some prospects from a contender & maybe SD tries to trade Lee to the Mets or Angles or something.

No Kermit the Cubs don’t need Giles. I assumed Gonzales was 2nd highest paid player but he is only the 4th.

Where is your responce CT? Now that it is all spelled out and makes perfect sense you’re silent? This deal makes even more sense now because I just learned D.Lee has only has 2010 left on his contract. You asked why the deal was not done in spring training I gave you 3 excellent reasons why it wasn’t & you had no mention of it in your last comment. Since you haven’t defended that part of the deal or the whole deal I’ll just declare you a wuss & myself a more knowlegable fan.

Harden, Lee & $15Mil (or Hoffpauir & no $) for Peavy ($63 Mil remaing) & Gonzales.

I agree this deal isn’t good for SD but if Towers has been ordered to reduce payroll for 2009 & beyond & Peavy is only willing to play for the Cubs I don’t see why Hendry shouldn’t use this incredible leverage to squeeze Gonzales too especially with the 6 starter the Cubs already have.

SD is caught between a rock & a hard place. This is the position Hendry needs to deal from.

even a broken clock is right twice a day. I don’t think you’re a dick either. You’re funny, harsh & sometimes mean but always fair. I thank you for letting me express my opinion crazy or not. You’re a fine human being and a great asset to Cub fans.

The real question is how desperate are the Padres to dump the contract. THe shit will hit the fan in July. Murph agrees with me too. If this trade ever happens will HJE hire me as a consultant or at least buy me a drink?@Bad Kermit -

Originally Posted By Bad Kermit@Frasier Crane – And “Murph agrees with me” is never a good sales pitch.

I was just kidding. I was humorously refering to ur Dave Kaplan remark

I don’t want to see this escalate . . . but how can you honestly believe your logic is even remotely correct? Because, you know, the Cubs are the only team around interested in Peavy. Not like Peavy would turn down, you know, the Dodgers, Phillies, or any other teams who will be in the thick of a playoff race. Not like those teams would try to get Peavy without demanding the Padres’ best player as well. I just can’t fathom the absurdness of the logic here.