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		<title>By: Hire Jim Essian! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cubs Sign Edmonds; In Other Words, Greg Couch Is Still a Dumbass</title>
		<link>http://hirejimessian.com/2008/04/14/defending-pie/comment-page-1/#comment-37721</link>
		<dc:creator>Hire Jim Essian! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cubs Sign Edmonds; In Other Words, Greg Couch Is Still a Dumbass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 21:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to pay off for a kid who&#8217;s only in the lineup on a sporadic basis. This was the point of my defense of Pie in April&#8211;that he shouldn&#8217;t be on the team if he&#8217;s not going to play everyday, and thus [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to pay off for a kid who&#8217;s only in the lineup on a sporadic basis. This was the point of my defense of Pie in April&#8211;that he shouldn&#8217;t be on the team if he&#8217;s not going to play everyday, and thus [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cubsfaninfla</title>
		<link>http://hirejimessian.com/2008/04/14/defending-pie/comment-page-1/#comment-29378</link>
		<dc:creator>cubsfaninfla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops, hit &quot;submit&quot; too soon

anyway....Reed Johnson is obviously better than Pie at the moment, and there&#039;s no real reason not to play him, except the fact that Felix has a lot of hype.</description>
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<p>anyway&#8230;.Reed Johnson is obviously better than Pie at the moment, and there&#8217;s no real reason not to play him, except the fact that Felix has a lot of hype.</p>
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		<title>By: cubsfaninfla</title>
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		<dc:creator>cubsfaninfla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not be opposed to playing Pie if our team was going nowhere fast or we were in first place and 10 games up....however, we have a chance to win this division again, and I don&#039;t know about you, but I&#039;d rather see a central division crown than see Pie hack at pitches....err....play every day. Lou is simply doing what&#039;s best for this team at the moment by playing the hot hand. Games count the same in April as they do in September. I think BK and aaronb make great points about this organization and their sheer ineptitude at developing position players, especially ones that they constantly whore out as &quot;the next great thing&quot;, especially those of the &quot;five-tool&quot; variety. I was never sold on this guy in the first place and I have all the more reason not to be sold on him. I hope he succeeds however long he&#039;s with the team but I honestly don&#039;t see that happening as long as he continually hangs out with Soriano and figures out how to not swing at bad, bad, pitches. Good defense only gets you so far at the ML level these days.

Soto seems to be good, but let&#039;s be fair here, he didn&#039;t come with half the hype Felix did. And bringing Theriot into any argument about Felix pie is absolutely silly. Sure, Theriot is crap, but Ronny Cedeno is only marginally better at the plate (at the moment), and is probably one of the most clueless middle IFs when it comes to defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not be opposed to playing Pie if our team was going nowhere fast or we were in first place and 10 games up&#8230;.however, we have a chance to win this division again, and I don&#8217;t know about you, but I&#8217;d rather see a central division crown than see Pie hack at pitches&#8230;.err&#8230;.play every day. Lou is simply doing what&#8217;s best for this team at the moment by playing the hot hand. Games count the same in April as they do in September. I think BK and aaronb make great points about this organization and their sheer ineptitude at developing position players, especially ones that they constantly whore out as &#8220;the next great thing&#8221;, especially those of the &#8220;five-tool&#8221; variety. I was never sold on this guy in the first place and I have all the more reason not to be sold on him. I hope he succeeds however long he&#8217;s with the team but I honestly don&#8217;t see that happening as long as he continually hangs out with Soriano and figures out how to not swing at bad, bad, pitches. Good defense only gets you so far at the ML level these days.</p>
<p>Soto seems to be good, but let&#8217;s be fair here, he didn&#8217;t come with half the hype Felix did. And bringing Theriot into any argument about Felix pie is absolutely silly. Sure, Theriot is crap, but Ronny Cedeno is only marginally better at the plate (at the moment), and is probably one of the most clueless middle IFs when it comes to defense.</p>
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		<title>By: Message Boards: Johnson vs. Pie - CBSSports.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Message Boards: Johnson vs. Pie - CBSSports.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Here&#039;s a link from HJE defending Pie- http://hirejimessian.com/index.php/2008/04/14/defending-pie/ [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: JackB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BK, I dig where you&#039;re coming from.  The Cubs organization throughout my lifetime has touted these minor league players who come up to the bigs and go splat.  I got on the Hee Seop Choi bandwagon in a big way and that&#039;s the last time I&#039;ll really go crazy over a prospect until they&#039;ve spent some time producing at the major league level.  The only good thing about Choi was that he provided us the means to get Derrek Lee, who is awesome and the only reason I can get my wife to watch Cub games with me.  I will admit to having liked Soto for the last couple years, but always sort of figured he&#039;d be a backup to whatever major league catcher we had, a younger version of Hank White.  

I&#039;m torn over Pie though.  The kid has the defensive tools the patrol center field for years to come.  He&#039;s provided glimpses of speed and power.  He&#039;s hit at the minor league level and adjusted to each new level as he&#039;s moved up.  He seems to have a good attitude and is willing to work.  He seems to really like Soriano whereas I would prefer he spent more time with our new right fielder with a Spanish to Japanese translator.  Of all the goobers who have come up over the past several years, I really like this kid and want him to succeed, but not if he hinders our ability to compete.  Thus the dilemma.  Play him and hope his bat comes around or send him down where he can get consistent at bats and continue to develop.  I do like the idea of the platoon with Johnson or putting him in as a late innings defensive replacement.  Maybe if we actually win a WS this season (hah!) then we can fuck around and give the job to Pie and give him a chance to shine.  Or maybe we need to trade him to a team like the Rays or Royals (neither of whom really need him either, I think) and give him a chance to play everyday for a team that&#039;s going to play well, but probably not well enough to win anything this year.  I&#039;d hate to see him go, even if does look clueless at the plate sometimes.  I guess that&#039;s the mid 90s Cub fan in me showing through, the one that was happy with players he liked, even if they weren&#039;t all that good.  I&#039;ve changed in that I expect guys who play for us to show results, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s too much to ask that the players be somewhat likable as well.  And the kiss of death is to be unlikable AND sucky.  CPat and LaTroya Hawkins come to mind.  At least Pie seems to be trying.  Until he gives up or becomes a dick, I won&#039;t give up on him, but if the Cubs need a better option in order to win a pennant and WS, then we need to utilize it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BK, I dig where you&#8217;re coming from.  The Cubs organization throughout my lifetime has touted these minor league players who come up to the bigs and go splat.  I got on the Hee Seop Choi bandwagon in a big way and that&#8217;s the last time I&#8217;ll really go crazy over a prospect until they&#8217;ve spent some time producing at the major league level.  The only good thing about Choi was that he provided us the means to get Derrek Lee, who is awesome and the only reason I can get my wife to watch Cub games with me.  I will admit to having liked Soto for the last couple years, but always sort of figured he&#8217;d be a backup to whatever major league catcher we had, a younger version of Hank White.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m torn over Pie though.  The kid has the defensive tools the patrol center field for years to come.  He&#8217;s provided glimpses of speed and power.  He&#8217;s hit at the minor league level and adjusted to each new level as he&#8217;s moved up.  He seems to have a good attitude and is willing to work.  He seems to really like Soriano whereas I would prefer he spent more time with our new right fielder with a Spanish to Japanese translator.  Of all the goobers who have come up over the past several years, I really like this kid and want him to succeed, but not if he hinders our ability to compete.  Thus the dilemma.  Play him and hope his bat comes around or send him down where he can get consistent at bats and continue to develop.  I do like the idea of the platoon with Johnson or putting him in as a late innings defensive replacement.  Maybe if we actually win a WS this season (hah!) then we can fuck around and give the job to Pie and give him a chance to shine.  Or maybe we need to trade him to a team like the Rays or Royals (neither of whom really need him either, I think) and give him a chance to play everyday for a team that&#8217;s going to play well, but probably not well enough to win anything this year.  I&#8217;d hate to see him go, even if does look clueless at the plate sometimes.  I guess that&#8217;s the mid 90s Cub fan in me showing through, the one that was happy with players he liked, even if they weren&#8217;t all that good.  I&#8217;ve changed in that I expect guys who play for us to show results, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s too much to ask that the players be somewhat likable as well.  And the kiss of death is to be unlikable AND sucky.  CPat and LaTroya Hawkins come to mind.  At least Pie seems to be trying.  Until he gives up or becomes a dick, I won&#8217;t give up on him, but if the Cubs need a better option in order to win a pennant and WS, then we need to utilize it.</p>
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		<title>By: JoePepitone</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or evan stephan?</description>
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		<title>By: Joepa58</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joepa58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant stand to watch Pie play.  He really does look clueless at the plate.  Is that because he&#039;s only hit in the 3 spot through the minors?  Will he see the same type of pitches leading off or hitting at the bottom of the order as he did hitting third his entire career?  Did this organization ever really expect him to be a 3 hitter?  If they did then they are dilusional and shame on them.

Pie for McLouth even steven!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant stand to watch Pie play.  He really does look clueless at the plate.  Is that because he&#8217;s only hit in the 3 spot through the minors?  Will he see the same type of pitches leading off or hitting at the bottom of the order as he did hitting third his entire career?  Did this organization ever really expect him to be a 3 hitter?  If they did then they are dilusional and shame on them.</p>
<p>Pie for McLouth even steven!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bad Kermit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bad Kermit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calm down, kettle.  I wasn&#039;t dragging anything out.  I just have a completely different opinion than you do about Pie, and figured I was allowed to comment on it on my site.  I&#039;ll happily be proven wrong on this one, but I don&#039;t think making excuses for the kid is helping any more than completely writing him off is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calm down, kettle.  I wasn&#8217;t dragging anything out.  I just have a completely different opinion than you do about Pie, and figured I was allowed to comment on it on my site.  I&#8217;ll happily be proven wrong on this one, but I don&#8217;t think making excuses for the kid is helping any more than completely writing him off is.</p>
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		<title>By: SKO</title>
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		<dc:creator>SKO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 00:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and we still should have given Jason Dubois and David Kelton more at bats. I bet you&#039;d take that corner outfield over those aging veterans we currently have in left and right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and we still should have given Jason Dubois and David Kelton more at bats. I bet you&#8217;d take that corner outfield over those aging veterans we currently have in left and right.</p>
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		<title>By: SKO</title>
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		<dc:creator>SKO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 00:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Pie. He has high socks, like Juan Pierre. His last name is actually a lot like Pierre. Just add two r&#039;s and an e. Pierre had two hundred hits. We should get him back from the Dodgers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Pie. He has high socks, like Juan Pierre. His last name is actually a lot like Pierre. Just add two r&#8217;s and an e. Pierre had two hundred hits. We should get him back from the Dodgers.</p>
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