Comments on: Exonerating Moises Alou http://hirejimessian.com/2008/04/08/exonerating-moises-alou/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:57:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ron Santo http://hirejimessian.com/2008/04/08/exonerating-moises-alou/comment-page-1/#comment-28705 Ron Santo Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:33:56 +0000 http://hirejimessian.com/?p=1851#comment-28705 Yeah, maybe Bartman shouldn't be crucified over the whole damn thing, but the son of a bitch had headphones on! For fuck's sake what was he listening to?!? If he was listening to the game, wouldn't he know Alou was going for it. I remember listening to the game on the radio since I had the sound turned down on the T.V., even Pat Hughes thought Moises might have a play at it. I still cringe over 2003 and think what might have been. Dusty overworked his starters because he had no confidence in his bullpen (truthfully..neither did I) and a sure double play fucked-up by our wonderful no gold glove short-stop. Yeah, it's still painful. Yeah, maybe Bartman shouldn’t be crucified over the whole damn thing, but the son of a bitch had headphones on!
For fuck’s sake what was he listening to?!? If he was listening to the game, wouldn’t he know Alou was going for it.
I remember listening to the game on the radio since I had the sound turned down on the T.V., even Pat Hughes
thought Moises might have a play at it. I still cringe over 2003 and think what might have been. Dusty overworked
his starters because he had no confidence in his bullpen (truthfully..neither did I) and a sure double play fucked-up by
our wonderful no gold glove short-stop. Yeah, it’s still painful.

]]> By: John Dooley http://hirejimessian.com/2008/04/08/exonerating-moises-alou/comment-page-1/#comment-28702 John Dooley Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:11:04 +0000 http://hirejimessian.com/?p=1851#comment-28702 The pictures clearly show Alou would've caught that ball. Bartman's hands are right over Alou's glove. I don't feel I should apologize for having these beliefs either. As stated by others above, Bartman didn't deserve all of the grief he got, either. The Cubs should've still gotten the job done. Alou was pressured into this apology, but it's just too late. It doesn't matter. Alou, in his heart, doesn't forgive Bartman. The pictures clearly show Alou would’ve caught that ball. Bartman’s hands are right over Alou’s glove.

I don’t feel I should apologize for having these beliefs either.

As stated by others above, Bartman didn’t deserve all of the grief he got, either. The Cubs should’ve still gotten the job done.

Alou was pressured into this apology, but it’s just too late. It doesn’t matter. Alou, in his heart, doesn’t forgive Bartman.

]]> By: If Music Could Talk • View topic - 2008 MLB Thread http://hirejimessian.com/2008/04/08/exonerating-moises-alou/comment-page-1/#comment-28697 If Music Could Talk • View topic - 2008 MLB Thread Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:56:51 +0000 http://hirejimessian.com/?p=1851#comment-28697 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] 09, 2008 10:27 am Oh, here's a really good blog entry about Moises, based on recent revelations:http://hirejimessian.com/index.php/2008 ... ises-alou/It's kind of nice to know there's at least 6-7 intelligent fans of the Chicago National Club. [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] 09, 2008 10:27 am Oh, here’s a really good blog entry about Moises, based on recent revelations:http://hirejimessian.com/index.php/2008 … ises-alou/It’s kind of nice to know there’s at least 6-7 intelligent fans of the Chicago National Club. [...]

]]> By: Jon http://hirejimessian.com/2008/04/08/exonerating-moises-alou/comment-page-1/#comment-28693 Jon Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:32:55 +0000 http://hirejimessian.com/?p=1851#comment-28693 Well said. Probably the best piece I've read about this incident (an admittedly low bar to set, as 90% of them are the same Mariotti-esque garbage). Well said. Probably the best piece I’ve read about this incident (an admittedly low bar to set, as 90% of them are the same Mariotti-esque garbage).

]]> By: Reuschel's Jowls http://hirejimessian.com/2008/04/08/exonerating-moises-alou/comment-page-1/#comment-28690 Reuschel's Jowls Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:25:39 +0000 http://hirejimessian.com/?p=1851#comment-28690 Great post. Even if I believe Moises had no better than a 50-50 shot of making the catch even if the ball hit *square in the heart of his glove*. (Peeing on your hands apparently turns them to stone). And the only thing I'll say in defense of Bartman here is that there were at least a dozen other douchebags reaching for that ball, and they haven't had their lives ruined over it, despite the fact that Bartman appeared more to simply be reacting to them as opposed to what was happening on the field. (Again, this ain't an exoneration, he should have known better, but that's simply how I saw it). JackB's post is right on... I'll always blame Dusty for that series more than anyone else. The decision to bring in Mark Guthrie in Game 1 still haunts me to this day. (Dusty was afraid of facing Lenny Freakin' Harris. Lenny Harris!) Great post. Even if I believe Moises had no better than a 50-50 shot of making the catch even if the ball hit *square in the heart of his glove*. (Peeing on your hands apparently turns them to stone).

And the only thing I’ll say in defense of Bartman here is that there were at least a dozen other douchebags reaching for that ball, and they haven’t had their lives ruined over it, despite the fact that Bartman appeared more to simply be reacting to them as opposed to what was happening on the field. (Again, this ain’t an exoneration, he should have known better, but that’s simply how I saw it).

JackB’s post is right on… I’ll always blame Dusty for that series more than anyone else. The decision to bring in Mark Guthrie in Game 1 still haunts me to this day. (Dusty was afraid of facing Lenny Freakin’ Harris. Lenny Harris!)

]]> By: JackB http://hirejimessian.com/2008/04/08/exonerating-moises-alou/comment-page-1/#comment-28688 JackB Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:45:17 +0000 http://hirejimessian.com/?p=1851#comment-28688 Well done MIke D. Moises is a complete cock, but he was completely justified in being pissed off about Bartman getting in the way. While I don't believe Bartman should have been vilified the way he has been, (nobody, not even a Cardinals fan deserves that) he still fucked up. Who knows what would have happened had he not reached for the ball. Mr. PeeHands makes the catch and maybe Gonzo still boots that ball and we still lose. I don't know. Maybe everything works out and the Cubs win, go to the series and get raped by the Yankees. Here's kind of the way I look at 2003, now that I've had 5 years to cool off: I don't believe in curses, but I do believe in luck and destiny. For whatever reason, call it fate, call it karma, the Cubs were destined to lose that series only so the Marlins could go on and win the World Series. Last year I don't believe any NL team could have beaten the Rockies either. Momentum and luck play a big part in these things. Also in 03, let us not forget that Dusty was handily out-managed by Jack McKeon. By going to Beckett in game 7, McKeon did what Dusty seemed unwilling to do, which was play like there's no tomorrow. Dusty managed game 7 like he wanted to have his rotation set for Game 1 against the Yankees. More than Bartman, Alou, even Alex Gonzalez's faulty glove, (and certainly not Kid K, who said after Game 7 that he choked. Kerry, you pitched your nuts off and hit a home run in the game. That's not choking, brother. Maybe if you hadn't thrown a thousand pitches against Atlanta, you'd have had better stuff. It happens. You're still the tits.) I hold Dusty responsible for losing that series. That other shit is baseball shit. It happens, happens everywhere, but when it happens in Chicago, it gets blown out of all proportion. Hell, we would have won game 1 had Dusty not let Mark Guthrie pitch to Mike Lowell. Sorry for the long sermon there. MAybe I'm quite as over 03 as I would like. Well done MIke D. Moises is a complete cock, but he was completely justified in being pissed off about Bartman getting in the way. While I don’t believe Bartman should have been vilified the way he has been, (nobody, not even a Cardinals fan deserves that) he still fucked up. Who knows what would have happened had he not reached for the ball. Mr. PeeHands makes the catch and maybe Gonzo still boots that ball and we still lose. I don’t know. Maybe everything works out and the Cubs win, go to the series and get raped by the Yankees. Here’s kind of the way I look at 2003, now that I’ve had 5 years to cool off: I don’t believe in curses, but I do believe in luck and destiny. For whatever reason, call it fate, call it karma, the Cubs were destined to lose that series only so the Marlins could go on and win the World Series. Last year I don’t believe any NL team could have beaten the Rockies either. Momentum and luck play a big part in these things. Also in 03, let us not forget that Dusty was handily out-managed by Jack McKeon. By going to Beckett in game 7, McKeon did what Dusty seemed unwilling to do, which was play like there’s no tomorrow. Dusty managed game 7 like he wanted to have his rotation set for Game 1 against the Yankees. More than Bartman, Alou, even Alex Gonzalez’s faulty glove, (and certainly not Kid K, who said after Game 7 that he choked. Kerry, you pitched your nuts off and hit a home run in the game. That’s not choking, brother. Maybe if you hadn’t thrown a thousand pitches against Atlanta, you’d have had better stuff. It happens. You’re still the tits.) I hold Dusty responsible for losing that series. That other shit is baseball shit. It happens, happens everywhere, but when it happens in Chicago, it gets blown out of all proportion. Hell, we would have won game 1 had Dusty not let Mark Guthrie pitch to Mike Lowell.

Sorry for the long sermon there. MAybe I’m quite as over 03 as I would like.

]]> By: Alex S. Gonzalez http://hirejimessian.com/2008/04/08/exonerating-moises-alou/comment-page-1/#comment-28597 Alex S. Gonzalez Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:33:12 +0000 http://hirejimessian.com/?p=1851#comment-28597 How could that fan not be totally focused on the game? He really blew it, man. He's just not clutch. How could that fan not be totally focused on the game? He really blew it, man. He’s just not clutch.

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