You could point to a lot of things that didn’t go right for the Cubs this season. Carlos Zambrano taking three months off. Half of Jason Marquis’ starts. Derrek Lee’s complete lack of power for the first half of the season, or Cliff Floyd’s and Jacque Jones’ lack of power all year. A terrible start to the season by the bullpen. Alfonso Soriano getting injured. Cesar Izturis. I think most fans can agree, though, that one of the things that went right pretty much throughout the season was the outstanding offensive and defensive play of Cubs third baseman Aramis Ramirez.
Barry Rozner must not be a fan. Rozner advocates getting rid of Aramis in one of the stupidest “if it’s not broke, let’s break it” suggestions I’ve heard in ages. He’s in quotes. I’m not.
Congrats John McDonough.
Nice going Jim Hendry.
Heck of a job Lou Piniella.
Now what?
Now, we listen to you and your hack writer friends whine for an entire offseason about how Lou pulled Zambrano too early in Game One, which somehow managed to cost the Cubs all three games in the NLDS.
The Cubs won a division, which gave the fans something to enjoy but not much for which to be proud.
You and 24 of your closest friends could have won the Central Division.
So could you…if only you had 24 friends.
But the good news is it won’t be any tougher next year, and the Cubs ought to repeat.
You want to crown them? Then crown their asses! Seriously, the Brewers were a young team, and they’re not going to improve at all, Barry? If they just dragged Turnbow and Yost out into the middle of the street and shot them, they’d improve by 10 games right there. The Cardinals took the Cubs and the Brewers down to the wire, too, Barry. You think it’s possible that they might try to improve a bit?
What they don’t want is to repeat their playoff performance, and considering the plethora of free-swinging, undisciplined hitters on whom their offense relies, what can they do to change?
The simple answer is to preach discipline in the offseason and sign some complementary players at shortstop or center or right field to improve the discipline. Heck, even getting Matt Murton and Geovany Soto more at-bats next year will improve the discipline on the team. I’ll hang up and wait for your complicated and poorly thought-out solution.
Many of their contracts are unmovable, and Alfonso Soriano’s deal is on that list, but the one they might be able to unload is the four years and $62 million remaining on the contract of Aramis Ramirez.
You don’t disappoint, Barry. You mean the contract the Cubs just signed Aramis to? The one everyone was really excited about? The one he gave us a hometown deal on?
The third baseman is overrated defensively…
By whom? All I hear from hacks like you is that Aramis sucks at defense. Because, you know, Aramis had 88 putouts and 260 assists in 358 total chances this year, which gave him a better fielding percentage (.972) than anyone in the league other than Pedro Feliz (.973).
…moves only when it seems to suit him…
Yeah. Like when he needs to move his arms to hit 26 home runs and drive in 101 RBIs (a team leader). Maybe you’d prefer he move around so that he strikes out more than 66 times, which was the lowest total of any “regular” other than Ryan Theriot on your team of “free-swingers.”
…has taken to running out fewer and fewer groundballs and deep flies…
Who gives a fuck? Would you rather Aramis tear his quad sprinting out a routine 4-3 put out or rather have him lead the team in RBIs, even after missing time with an injury? By the way, jackass, Aramis bounced into only 13 double plays this year, fewer than the much more fleet-footed Derrek Lee, Mark DeRosa, and Jacques Jones. Why don’t you get on their asses about hustling around the basepaths?
…and, as you witnessed last week, is a selfish situational hitter.
I was watching the NLDS last week. What were you watching? Aramis was the only Cub making solid contact off Brandon Webb in Game One. He certainly looked terrible in a couple of at-bats during the series, but getting fooled on a low and away breaking ball isn’t “selfish.” It’s “if I don’t do something, we’re going to get bounced from the playoffs.”
But the worst sin of all was his departure from the club right after Soriano was injured in early August.
The Cubs never needed Ramirez more, but he flew back to Chicago to have an injury examined before returning to the team a few days later.
The Cubs dropped four of six while he was out and scored 9 runs in those 4 defeats.
Are you fucking kidding me? Aramis’ worst sin is being injured? Why don’t you just say his worst sin is being Dominican? Or how about his worst sin is having a weird case of voice-body disconnect? How the fuck is it Aramis’ fault that he was injured at the same time Soriano was? Furthermore, if he’s such a selfish, lazy asshole, how would he have helped them score more than 9 runs in those 4 losses?
That’s not something Piniella is likely to forget, nor is he unaware that Ramirez’s demeanor is based mostly on his personal performance, not the team’s.
Did Lou tell you that? Do you even get a press pass? Any time I’ve heard Lou talk about Aramis, he’s said what a clutch hitter he’s been, how much the team needs him, and how crucial he was to the team’s success.
He’s got a bit of Sammy Sosa in him…
Why? Because they’re both from the Dominican Republic? Racist.
…and the only surprise Saturday night was that Ramirez didn’t take a victory lap as Sosa did following the Braves’ three-game sweep of the Cubs in 1998, which remains one of the most bizarre moments in Wrigley Field history.
I was way more surprised by the fact that Chris Young saw a single fastball all night.
If you can move Ramirez and sign Alex Rodriguez, how much better would you be?
Slightly. If you can keep Ramirez, sign Rodriguez, and move him back to his natural position, how much better would you be?
He’s a better guy…
I’m sure his wife agrees. Nice guys always get caught with tranny strippers, right?
…better fielder, and better hitter.
So, one of the Greatest Players to Ever Play the Game of Baseball is better than Aramis Ramirez? I somehow doubt Aramis is too crestfallen. That’s like someone telling you that your girlfriend is stunningly beautiful, but not quite as hot as Megan Fox. That’s not exactly the equivalent of saying that you, Barry Rozner, aren’t quite as good as Rick Morrissey.
True, his postseason hitting has been atrocious the last three years, but if you get him out of New York, maybe he will go back to being A-Rod again.
Aramis, on the other hand, raked in 2003, even though he was awful this past postseason. Of course, I’m not one to judge a player on his work in a 3-7 game stretch as opposed to an entire season or career’s worth of at-bats. Maybe I should be a sportswriter!
Prior to 2005, and including his first two playoff series with the Yanks, Rodriguez was a .330 postseason hitter with 6 homers, 8 doubles and 16 RBI in 26 games.
Did you take it one step further, Barry? Prior to 2007, Aramis got on base at a higher than .350 clip and slugged better than .575. He hit 4 home runs, a double, and a triple, and he drove in 10 RBIs in only TWELVE games. That puts him on pace to eclipse all of A-Rod’s “good” postseason numbers (other than the doubles). Did I convince you that Aramis is a better postseason player, or can you see how stupid it is to just dismiss numbers for no reason, particularly when dealing with a small sample size?
Plus, he loves playing for Lou Piniella, who said after the Cubs were swept: “We’ve had some spells this summer where we’ve had a week or 10 days where it was hard scoring runs, and then we’ve had the other kind.
“They just caught us cold. But, again, let’s give (Arizona’s) pitching credit, too. Our team tried. We just didn’t get it done, and that’s really the end of the story.”
Piniella also said, “Last time we were at home, we swung the bats as well as we did all year.”
So, the Cubs offense was streaky? I’ve never heard that point made before.
I’m sorry. Maybe I missed in there where Lou said he’d rather have A-Rod than Aramis. Let me check again.
“We’ve had some spells this summer where we’ve had a week or 10 days where it was hard scoring runs BECAUSE OF ARAMIS RAMIREZ, and then we’ve had the other kind, WHERE EVERYONE PLAYED JUST LIKE A-ROD DOES. THEY EVEN WORE “WWAD?” BRACELETS.
“They just caught us cold, THANKS TO ARAMIS. But, again, let’s give (Arizona’s) pitching credit, too, WHICH ARAMIS WOULD NEVER DO, BECAUSE HE’S A MEAN, SELFISH DOODY-HEAD. Our team tried LIKE A-ROD TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO HIS WIFE WHY HE CAME HOME REEKING OF JETER’S MUSK. We just didn’t get it done, and that’s really the end of the story. EXCEPT MY ENDING GOES, ‘THANKS FOR RUINING THE SEASON, ARAMIS, YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE.’
“Last time we were at home, we swung the bats as well as we did all year OR AT LEAST AS WELL AS WE COULD WITH SHITTY ARAMIS RAMIREZ INSTEAD OF A-ROD.”
Now I see the point of including those quotes, Barry. Thanks.
But that was against Pittsburgh and Cincinnati, typical Central Division slop, while the D’backs offered a legitimate challenge the Cubs couldn’t handle.
The Cubs went 9-9 against the Reds. 8-7 against the Pirates. They were hardly fattening up their record on the “Central Division slop.” Meanwhile, the Cubs beat their two closest competitors in the NL Central, St. Louis and Milwaukee, like drums. Do you even look at statistics? Oh, by the way, the other team that steamrolled its way to the NLCS, the Rockies, lost 5 of 7 to the Cubs.
Piniella knows good baseball and he knows bad, and he knows what wins and what doesn’t, and he made the most out of what he had this year. But he also had to be sickened by the Cubs’ ludicrous approach to hitting in the playoffs.
Because, as I mentioned before, you clearly interviewed Piniella before you wrote this half-assed article, right?
Piniella has won World Series, and he knows good pitching beats hitting — especially undisciplined hitting — in the playoffs. But there was nothing he could do about it by the time the Cubs reached October, when his fate and roster were sealed.
If good pitching beats good hitting, why aren’t you all over Ted Lilly, Rich Hill, and Carlos Marmol? They all performed poorly in the NLDS, they all have reasonable contracts, and they are all useful trading chips. Why not just wave your magic wand and replace them with Johann Santana, Jake Peavy, and Francisco Rodriguez?
He changed what he could this year, making over the roster several times once he got a feel for what was available to him.
It’d be really difficult to think way back and remember some of those changes for people who don’t follow the team closely, so don’t bother.
Now, he’ll have the winter to work with Hendry and make more changes, and maybe they can even move the all-star third baseman and collect a Hall of Famer in the process.
Sorry, Aramis. The Hall of Fame called, and they preemptively denied you entry.
With Ramirez owed roughly $15 million a year for the next four, dumping him and adding A-Rod doesn’t even ruin your budget. It’s only another $15 million a pop for a team that has the cash.
Um, you could have Aramis Ramirez AND Vladimir Guerrero with that extra $15 million you just wrote off. I sure hope your wife is the one who pays the bills.
Piniella did a lot in a short period of time during the season, but he’s going to need some help to take the Cubs to the next level.
Batman? Are you talking about Batman?
The best thing about him is that he’s a realist, and he doesn’t pretend to have what he doesn’t, or a play a way he can’t.
I saw a guy downtown one time pretending he had a trumpet and playing songs through his hand by vibrating his lips. He reeked of feces and lived under the El tracks. So you’re saying the best part about Lou is that he doesn’t have dementia?
“I’m proud of our guys. I really am,” Piniella said Saturday night, noting how hard the Cubs fought to turn it around after an awful start. “I told them that. I told them to have a nice, safe winter and we’ll reconvene next spring and take this thing further, and that’s really the bottom line.”
I’m sorry. What is the point of this quote?
The Cubs spent a lot of money to win a division, and though it was fun for the paying customer, as they approach the 100th anniversary of the last World Series title, another Central Division winner is not going to satisfy the fans.
That’s their bottom line.
What would you know? You’re clearly not even a fan.

That’s really irritating when writers cherry-pick stats like that. A-Rod was great in the playoffs before 2005? What about when he hit around .100 in 2005 and 2006 and .267 this year? Signing A-Rod would be a lame, Mets-like type of move, and the Cubs could do a lot more with $30 million.
Flem:
Like, sign 30 Ryan Theriot’s? As much as I like him, no thanks. I’ll take one A-Rod, please.
IAN, I see your point, but I’m thinking more like one Miggy Cabrera (moved to SS) and one Torii Hunter (total 2007 salaries $20 million) with some more cash left over. You obviously don’t have the same irrational disgust for A-Rod that I do–
Excellent job of breaking down that hack, BK.
The upgrade from Aramis to A-Rod, along with the assumption that $15 million will be needed to make up the difference doesn’t leave room for anything else.
I’ll take Aramis and…Torii Hunter (for example) over A-Rod and another season of Jacque.
Any day.
What a poorly written, poorly thought-out article.
I read this article a few days ago and about shit myself. Yeah, let’s get rid of our best, most clutch player. THere’s a good idea genius. Rami is awesome. He filled the black hole at 3rd base long empty after Santo’s departure, he hits like a beast, doesn’t strike out, and his defense is much better than he’ll ever be given credit for. I don’t personally give a shit if he doesn’t hustle out popups or groundouts. That’s what guys like Jacque Jones and ryan Theriot do. No one’s ever going to hang the scrappy handle on Rami, but so fucking what? Who do you want at 3rd, David Eckstein or Aramis Ramirez? Rami’s been Captain Clutch all year, has the misfortune to be injured at the same time as Soriano, and his bat (like damn near everyone else’s) goes to sleep in the three games that matter most. Shit, Arod didn’t hit again in the playoffs either and his ass is gonna get 20 million a year to play for the next ten years.
And I’m convvinced that the only reason people think Rami is selfish is cause the dude just doesn’t talk. You hardly ever see him on the post game shows. That’s usually for guys like Soriano, Lee, and DeRosa. I actually like that about Rami. He seems like a guy who comes to the ballpark, does his job, and goes home. No tooting his own horn, no big speeches, just 30HRs and 100 RBIs a year. So he ended up 4 short this year. Big whup. And the Sosa thing floors me. You’re seriously going to compre Rami’s ego to the massive out of control monster that was the ego of Sammy Sosa? Why, because he used to sit with Sammy and Alou in the dugout in 03? Uh, maybe that was become they were from the same country, douchebag. The same reason Pie and Soriano are so tight? Why most of the white guys sit together? Jeez.
I’ll continue wearing my number 16 jersey and I’ll continue to quote his stats and sing his praises to any asshats who come up to me and try to tell me he’s lazy.
That should be 30 million a year for Arod, by the way.
This is almost as ridiculous as Steve Stone saying the D’Bags won the series because they have a team full of Ryan Theriot type players that hustle all the time and the Cubs only have one Ryan Theriot….almost as ridiculous….
Flem, while I like your enthusiasm, there is no way in hell Miggy would be a SS. He’s barely slim enough to play 3B. Give him another year or two (unless he joins Atkins), and he’s a 1B or DH for the rest of his career.
Also, as much as I love Torii Hunter, we really do not want the guy. Look over his career numbers, and he is basically a right-handed Jacque Jones with more SBs. You can compare the two careers side-by-side and really not be able to tell a difference, with the lone exception of this season. He’s not worth the money, doesn’t want to play at Wrigley, and basically would just be a defensive upgrade over Jock.
I would, however, love if we could have ARod playing on the team, back at his natural position. Rozner’s a fucking idiot for thinking we should trade Aramis, and I hope he burns in a very special level of Hell for saying that. With all due respect to Derrek Lee, Ramirez has been our best hitter. He’s a power guy that doesn’t strike out. Yeah, his OBP isn’t as high as Lee’s (not many players are), but when there’s a runner in scoring position, I’ll gladly take a hit over a walk.
Weebs, you forgot to mention the fact that Hunter is a far, far better fielder than Jacque is.
Weebs, forget about Cabrera playing short, my point is that you could get more bang for your buck by getting two very excellent players for the money that you’d pay for A-Rod. And by the way, Harold Reynolds is on his way to your house to reprimand you for blaspheming the name of Torii Hunter. Hunter will give you about 100 RBI every year as long as he plays at least 140 games– plus a whole bunch of Web Gems– Jacque won’t give you that.
By pretty much any statistical point of view, Jacque is actually a better fielder then Torii hunter. It’s been years since hunter was a plus fielder.
As far as hitting goes, Weebs is right in saying Hunter wouldn’t be much of an upgrade over Jacque. Yeah, he would be better, but he certainly isn’t worth the 10-15 million he’s going to get. hunter is basically Soriano without as much power or speed. This year was pretty much a career year for Hunter (at age 31), and it was essentially the same year Jacque had last year (at age 31) that everyone bemoaned. If we are going to get a new outfielder, we should go with Abreu and bat him leadoff. He’s an on-base machine, and a great base stealer. I’d love to see a lineup of Abreu, Lee, Soriano, Ramirez.
Shit, really? The ONE time I don’t look up a statistic, and Jay T burns me for it.
However, are we comparing Torii as a center fielder in the cavernous Metrodome to Jacque as a right/center fielder in the cavernous Metrodome/Wrigley Field? It’s tough to compare the two when playing in different stadiums at different positions. Also, Jacque’s arm is bullshit.
BK, I think you know my feelings on Rozner, so I’m sure you won’t be surprised when I say I loved this.
I have no fucking idea what a selfish at bat for a cleanup hitter would even be.
Pre, a selfish hitter hits a home run with men on base and then commands them not to score. Well, actually, I’m sure he commands them to score to lift his RBI total.
Aramis Ramirez might not go opposite field as much as Rozner likes, but he’s hardly Jacque in that regard. And he’s hardly Sosa-esque in having a monstrous ego.
I still can’t get over the Sosa comaprison. The article was already dogshit, but when he threw that in there, it completely pissed me off. What does everyone think of this Fukudome cat? I like the Abreu idea, but I’ve always wanted to ahve a Japanese player on the Cubs. A good Japanese player.
well done BK.. I think writers think that since they can type whatever they want they are right all the time no matter what. Same goes for the goofs on the radio who always knows everything about sports(ie the Mouth from 6-10am on 670 complete idiot and I’m glad I dont listen to him anymore
Or they could just sign Aaron Rowand and forget about Torii Hunter.
clearly the answer is signing andruw jones. nothing says i deserve a big contract like a .222 average. if we’re randomly spitballing players to trade for aramis, why dont we trade him for like the entire padres pitching staff. we then move zambrano to third, as he had a much better average in the first playoff game than aramis did, we put maddox in as our closer, trade marquis for arod, make maddox our closer a la john smoltz, and then we turn jason kendall into a muppet and make him our mascot.
if that doesnt work, well, its all aramis’s fault for not running out that grounder he hit to the first baseman. and that time he missed that ball once. you know its because of his lack of what i’m gonna call “charlie hustle” that we’ll never make the playoffs again, etc.
has barry rozner ever seen a cubs game? he does know we’re in blue right? maybe he really means joe crede…
Wow, what a beatdown! Great post….
Ryan, this Maddox you speak of. Would he perhaps be Tommy Maddox?
I’d love to have A-Rod. But this article is tardtastic. If money is no object for the Cubs, why not keep Ramirez and sign A-Rod? Or does that make too much sense?
Bruce Miles has us covered, as always.
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=55472
does anyone else abhor the way that Barry Rozner seems to think that EVERY sentence is a paragraph? he writes for my local paper, and this is what one of his stories would look like:
Barry Rozner is not a very good writer.
I mean I know that he’s a columnist, but his grammar isn’t always the best.
When I emailed him to ask why he did this with his paragraphs, he was quite rude.
Mr. Rozner, if you’re reading this, please stop being such a jerk.
And also, I’d be interested to hear about the “awards” that you claim to have won.